Nico Vink

In the second episode of the NSMB Podcast, A.J. Barlas chats with Nico Vink about his childhood and how growing up in Belgium influenced his riding today. Nico opens up about the struggles he's faced as a result of pursuing his passion – chancing it on more than one occasion to get to an event with only enough money to fuel his car to get there. How perception plays a role in being comfortable on massive 90-foot jumps and let's not forget the missing tooth. You'll have to wait until the end to learn that story because A.J. almost forgot himself.

Topics discussed:

1. Growing up in Belgium and racing Cross Country
2. Nico's transition into, and out of World Cup DH
3. Freeride and the FEST Series
4. Riders to look out for and who he's inspired by
5. Loosefest; how the event and Fest Series events are run and what it takes to put it on
6. Rampage: Judging the event and his insane line the last time he competed in the event
7. Nico's involvement with Chatel Bike Park
8. Parts he runs and how his bike setup changes from regular riding to FEST events
9. That missing tooth and why it took so long to replace

Links mentioned in this episode:

• FEST Series
• Chatel Bike Park
• Red Bull Rampage

Transcript

AJ Barlas:   0:02
90-foot gap jumps, high-speed manuals and often missing a tooth. If any or all of those make you think because I think you know because the man behind Loose Fest and is integral to the go large and do it well riding blossoming since the festivities kicked off hard working in fun-loving. He's pretty is happiness and box ahead of everything else in his life that's left in broke on numerous occasions but doesn't seem to have it any other way. Could also be behind his humility, because he is one of the most down to earth, genuine and open individuals I've had the pleasure of meeting. But on the bike, that calm demeanor is only visible in the control in heavy situations. He's no stranger to the back wheel or flying over job suitable size for dirt bikes. But for Nico, it's all quite casual. Any refers to the enormous least best jumps is chill. That humble attitude brought him a long way from his days scratching for World Cup results, but he remains low key with a focus on doing what he enjoys. Thankfully, her fans. That's right, he's black. During Crankcase Whistler, Niko was kind enough to share a story from racing cross country as a young whippersnapper to being comfortable hitting the biggest jobs we've seen in MTB. He shared thoughts on racing and why he moved on from it. The future of Free Ride and where the FEST series fits in, he's also a Red Bull judge and shared some experience going from scoring the often controversial event. I'm A. J. Barlas. Welcome to the second episode of the NSMB podcast. We've got more to come, but for now, enjoy my conversation with Nico.  

AJ Barlas:   1:31
Welcome back, guys to the NSMB podcast. And we're sat in Whistler today with Niko. Think we're gonna chat a bit about how you going into riding and where you started. And where is that now? With freeride movement, Loosefest in FEST series? Some stuff about this, the brands that he works with and a little bit about the future. So, Nico, welcome.

Nico Vink:   1:56
Thanks for having me.

AJ Barlas:   1:58
Thank Thistle is served on noses. Nikos First podcast. He's pretty excited. Definitely different

Nico Vink:   2:08
than listen to some of them, but I've never been so it's

AJ Barlas:   2:12
go. Um, So, Nikki, you're from Belgium, which from minus standings pretty flat,

Nico Vink:   2:19
Never. I grew up. It's like, How do you say the way we say it is? But you know what's going on? So, um, my dad had a bike shop. Look, use the race motorcross and I just like it wasn't the bikes and I did some BMX everything. They're camping and que part and like a whole bunch of our trails, and that's

AJ Barlas:   2:50
it. And I guess that's because that's what was around. I know soldier Woz and

Nico Vink:   2:55
I just rode bikes almost daily. Since I was a kid, I was having jumps in my backyard and just digging stuff myself with pallets and digging holes in the garden of my fire inside. And then that's

AJ Barlas:   3:14
it. Where did you grow up in Belgium?

Nico Vink:   3:16
It's, um, a little town called Simp Youlus Loss. It's that city 50 minutes from an Antwerp, so that's pretty industrial. There's not that much nickel. Not a lot of what's left, but there's a couple like corners, and we found both the right and well doctor jumps and

AJ Barlas:   3:38
have you been into building since the early days forever? 

Nico Vink:   3:42
Yeah, like I For me, it's always been like, not like back in the day. We're where you live there wasn't anything there. So if you wanted to do something for me building always that part of writing like if you don't build something, nothing, that you could go poach other people's stuff. But no, not always the most progressive. And I don't know, I just

AJ Barlas:   4:11
Where do you call home now?

Nico Vink:   4:15
Still officially, still the same area that's mostly on the road. Like I would say, I'm on the road like 95% of

AJ Barlas:   4:27
their suitcases here. Have

Nico Vink:   4:29
fun, then. I love it. It's not like I'm not really living. Drive around from Project to Project. Yeah, move her out.

AJ Barlas:   4:41
Do do you think most of that is in Europe here in North America? A bit, too.

Nico Vink:   4:46
Let's say me really 60 70%. You're probably right. But the last couple years have been doing more stuff like overseas Canada. Us, like my dark eyes became a big

AJ Barlas:   5:01
So before we get into, like, the FEST Series stuff and let's go back to where you started and we're just talking a bit about it, like you started out racing a little bit of day and next and then go into mountain biking and kind of sounds like you come Fell into a like you turned up. The rights did. Really Well, next thing you know, you you got Junior World Champs.

Nico Vink:   5:22
Yeah, kinda. I before all that actually like Like, say, Like, my dad was next team for a couple of big black cross country names in Belgium, Right? A big cross country racing team. So he was a mechanic on that team. So I traveled all the races with my parents on the weekend through it, Um, for me. Okay. Yeah. 67 Probably very. On that. Um, can I also raised cross country for a couple of years? I was, like, 10 to 12. Look, I just, like, start racing Youth league, cross country, and I did a couple seasons, and I I don't want quite a few races. One overall title. Gore got second, whatever. But then my mom was Okay. This is too hard on your body, Actually, country for being that young, I was, like, 12 starting for stuff. I'm in my life. Yeah, So they have a sudden you don't like that anymore. So got more just staying home. What do you say? Like I got riser bars on my C I just started, like, influenced by, like a certain movies like Pounds Rate. We watched a lot of tickets like Monkey See Monkey Do Started jumping Lord doing that kind of stuff. And, um, I did that for a couple of years. I've got until I skatepark writing and their camps at the same time. Boat would be a maxim hard Jill. Yeah, it was like 15. Like a friend of my dad. Like one of the cross country race. There's actually like canto shock to fix his bike. And now this weekend, there's a national champs. I may be a D h. Maybe like it's a funding to go do a thing like we tried figuring out a license last. Nobody's putting. So after as a private car, say, without a license and a license tonight kind of won that race. The people like leading the championship on stuff way. You know what my body was also, and we both did podium so sick. Yeah, that's it. That's how I roll into I, um, that's my first of a racing. Because of that result corner Belgium hooked me up with a free by through my dad's shop. I, um I started racing the whole national Siris on the first or second race. My actual first season. Um, my junior crashed. You were selected for European champs, and I got his spot tonight. Beetle. The juniors from my country invited the world over in 99. Get

AJ Barlas:   8:32
down from there. So I remember seeing you racing around a track. I think it was in one of Alex's Rankin's videos, like

Nico Vink:   8:43
probably like I and I started off cold enough for two seasons that I wrote seven. Taxi body like Italian brand. Yeah, we're going bike sick from for to just another two seasons, I switched to be one with Bassett Beaver so that I traveled a couple full seasons on bass and Claudio. There was also on her one year quickly shop. So I traveled the season. Her, um, with my mechanic son there on that team. Kind of like, um, I safe use of cross country tea. Okay, on then. We have one year. Be one. I'm not be one stopped. Became attractive.

AJ Barlas:   9:38
So there was a scientist just different major. Small. So

Nico Vink:   9:41
Yeah, so they should team change flags on track first. I was like running Shandra is like the session ton, which wasn't like the most ideal raised by giving more to the right. And, um, I like next year. What? First section 88. I stopped. I did all the prototype testing because Guy Lee on broke up circuit. Not all the time, but did someone help you? Yeah. That's less fires that happened. I don't know. So yeah. Oh, I'll go finding this guy, Know how that'll left. And then I was on track for four years. Probably something

AJ Barlas:   10:30
you and then from track radio,

Nico Vink:   10:34
from Jack. Like I kind of lost the team quits on. Then I tried continuing track on my own. I didn't really They were starting up a new team with Martin lightly. And I didn't like I wasn't fast enough view on that team. I did some top twenties, but they want, so I didn't make it to that team. But then I just got a friend. You I know it was probably here, Okay, a soon as I was like I privateers for maybe three years after that guy had been one year on track. But then I was like, this is not working because money found solid bikes German broad. Where to season Like tinkle. Someone like blah. Oh, man walked for roles for one year, but that the bike was And I kind of, uh, yeah, I was already writing Scott clothing and I knew about Walker. Let's go pretty roll. Like from shopper in the area. I always looked up and started talking about sculpt, and he's like, Okay, I can I can probably help you, Rosa, Like you say, a rose. I was like, really wanted me. Offered me, like a pretty big deal, You know, like good money. Everything I kind of like OK, I ride bikes for fun If I want a bike. I don't like so much. No, we'll have a Fine. So I just signed Afraid such thing then took that chance on with bunnies. Like I told them, I want to do more free writing that stuff. So cool. Show me, Help you out, See how it goes. Like, show me what you got. Kind of Yeah, from there on it Just, like, got better and better.

AJ Barlas:   12:47
I've been a good relationships and said Hey, yeah, yeah,

Nico Vink:   12:52
I think it's 56 years, so I'm really happy school like I love. Working with Walker is good. Duty writes himself. He's He's really

AJ Barlas:   13:05
Yeah, not sick. Go. So that that first season on Scott, will you still race and more? Couple. Did you stop this sort of new way?

Nico Vink:   13:13
I started moving away. I still did a race. I didn't Fort William. But I stopped dreaming. Fine. But then, like, it was like my last World Cup ever. Fort William, when I was kind of, like, whatever carrying more, Because at the same time, I was building like my first like project Kinda jumped a video in Royal Hillside. A friend like building that prior to rule the World Cup. Okay, I'll just race and see how it goes and practice those. Okay? I'm feeling it. Okay. Holly's coming up. It was actually pretty motivated. Qualified? Get a good result. Letting qualifying like that puncture midway down on my first thought that came.

AJ Barlas:   14:08
I see. Oh,

Nico Vink:   14:12
here from that. Just make it The royal feels like finish up those drums and shoot that. That's the direction I want to go. That's kind of you. What I'm doing now, So I like it. I

AJ Barlas:   14:27
mean, it worked out. Yeah. Did you think at that point, Because what was that? Six Easy guys. Doesn't mean you have turkey. Did you think of that point when you're building that free ride line like everyone would end up being your money, make it like how you're gonna get by? Yeah.

Nico Vink:   14:48
I never really say Chase making a living. Yeah, Like like, if I would have done that, I probably wouldn't be biking Very if you didn't make a lot of fun. You're Yeah, like there's, like, moments in my career that I like. Like you said, 50 bucks on my count. Like there's a good session going on, like, an hour. Await us on that. 50 bucks is how much is it gonna cost me to fill up my shit? I like Phil the van and go for dissection and figure out money. The next thing you know, I never really carry too much money. Um, but at a certain states, you're like, OK, now, come on. 36 you need Yeah, but so, Yeah, I never really looked at it that way, but I I was a weird like going that direction. It's a new direction, and it would be like the chances of Yeah. I mean, like I was reading was okay fast. I could race. I could I could win some races. Could do okay in World Cups My best years old, this 12 But that was not like gonna get me. And then I wanted to progress on going to the races. I started being bored because we're raising the same tracks over and over. Like I always wanted his big jumps,

AJ Barlas:   16:23
I

Nico Vink:   16:23
think, like in 4 4005 like I was on a training camp somewhere in Spain. I still be one. They're really shooting a little bit of a little track near downtown. Big moral stab down. Like, how do you like 2040 kilometers or something? I think I could jump that. They kind of like the first ever like

AJ Barlas:   16:52
Big John.

Nico Vink:   16:52
Big John. I can never get the footage. No. Yet

AJ Barlas:   17:00
it's out there somewhere. Some

Nico Vink:   17:02
dude filming took a photo, so I never saw it. I don't want to get a hold of that, but, uh, So I hit that. No, no, ever A couple of years later, my buddy, One of my Belgian bodies bottom a little friends, which is a place kind of motoring because at the end of my road, couples kinda getting bored of, um, yeah, trucks. I want to go bigger. So Okay, I'll start motive. Because at least there's big jumps everywhere for motive in your gums. And I gotta beat it to death. And then friends ever from Max and try a little bit. Yeah. Friday And I was looking for new things to do. You got bored.

AJ Barlas:   17:53
You needed more thrill.

Nico Vink:   17:54
Yeah, I figured out like, Well, yeah, I'm good at riding bikes model mediocre. It was like I like BMX. I like like building trails. I like Donald like, and I like the size of jumps, the motive visor. So why not? Just that all, you know, I started doing like that's what that girl was more just me looking progress. My writing. I think

AJ Barlas:   18:26
you felt you just weren't getting it at the World Cup. Yeah, well, I

Nico Vink:   18:31
wasn't looking for moneymaking because, like, the first couple of years, I was for you. Really? Like yeah, Like, got into rampage, started getting more coverage about covers, like a good video seven. I mean, make fast happened, which is like, changed to

AJ Barlas:   18:52
that changed all your him

Nico Vink:   18:53
a big part. But you got, like, are you say, since last, like, feel like a lot more respect from the industry. Like you kids like, you kind of look at it as I think that can be broke up. DC yet another. Like, I feel like there's also Siri's, and it's kind of

AJ Barlas:   19:14
legitimizes what you're doing.

Nico Vink:   19:15
Yeah, Little thing, it's got reaches respected.

AJ Barlas:   19:21
It probably goes outside of our sport. I think I think a lot of people would see that stuff who have nothing to do mountain boxing like, Wow, this is great, because the first yard it loose Oh. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Really?

Nico Vink:   19:39
Next, students were like, Like, I think, like, you know, all of the I grew up, like being certain morning occur. I got watched being I didn't much mountain biking.

AJ Barlas:   19:51
Yeah, I think I read somewhere. One of your favorite Rogers is Mark Aitken.

Nico Vink:   19:56
Yeah, Yeah, Andi got most. Yeah, totally. Recently. Yeah, I was BMX started at root. Even when I was racing World Cup was, like,

AJ Barlas:   20:10
been accidentally stepped on.

Nico Vink:   20:14
So how do you say Okay, I respect that somehow That scene on the mentality a lot more BMX bike. Always like it, but it was, like, kind of geeky. So, like, wasn't that cool? But now we got to that point

AJ Barlas:   20:37
who you stupid still spent till I'm going. Going? That's a

Nico Vink:   20:43
bit of a bummer. But then, on the other hand, just flat out like riding these bikes now, and they're so much opportunity. I traveled supers. You all right? Like we I got opportunity to build, like, like stuff that was beyond my dreams, kid, like access to operating excavators just like you. Okay. This piece, like 64 you know that. It's like, uh, I'm doing the same thing just on a bigger bite. Now I feel like, Yeah, So I like I still wish, like, sometimes I could take a month off and summer and just go back home to my local spot, right? Trails of my buddies. But then again, my building loose us and our English jumps is Oh, yeah, I wish, like I do it. I've done it a couple times,

AJ Barlas:   21:51
But the thing

Nico Vink:   21:51
that those jumps is like like the shape that line, Just like like if you gotta have the rain, it is gonna take you like Oh, 3 to 4 days shape. Really big time. It's hard to find people to write

AJ Barlas:   22:09
it with. Yeah, sure.

Nico Vink:   22:12
So I want to do it more. Yeah. All right.

AJ Barlas:   22:17
It's funny. Just a few moments ago, he said, like he felt like he wanted to hit bigger jobs. Bigger was better in Paris in a couple of years ago that he felt like our blacks. The damn box should be getting hates, take a job. And then I think it was maybe two years after I heard that rumor. That's serious stuff. No. So, you know, the first guy, I guess to be like these blocks is sick. We should be going speaker.

Nico Vink:   22:45
Think they're just a few of us like that? Like how you say within a scene that, like, I have, we just been similar writing style. Me like, I'm not coast that

AJ Barlas:   22:59
Yeah, no,

Nico Vink:   23:01
but, um, like a ce faras what we were hitting at the time. It wasn't device. That's a little bit. Yeah, um, like it wasn't even close. Nice. Do the big jump track down my friends out of the race World Cup or something. Everyone's up for the big jump.

AJ Barlas:   23:31
No biggie.

Nico Vink:   23:33
first. You know, it's like and it sounds cocky, but it's just that's how it waas. Yeah, I just knew you could go way bigger still. Now I think the Big Dark West is big. But like if we have some more time with the little I think it drew like miss you. No, we're not. No.

AJ Barlas:   24:00
And what you're hitting like No, any food is, at least here you go, Big guy. Does it show? It's

Nico Vink:   24:09
like after it even

AJ Barlas:   24:10
it's chill. Listen, it he just said recesses chill. Okay,

Nico Vink:   24:15
But you say I get like when you first show up. Like like, like say, Like, I haven't been there since I didn't organize Loose vest. 18. You'd like to be here. I went back. Looked at the germs. You You're kind of the elephant in the room when you start to take shape. Look, can A few weeks will be writing this like it's kind of a I've been nearly building even extensions like transfer stickers that are forever but nearly

AJ Barlas:   24:53
Are you testing during the build process or you can

Nico Vink:   24:56
we try? But this year again, yeah. So Dark fest. We always have a lot of time um, And then we test prior today. You in the boat? I've had, I think, from my island. I never egregious like that never shows up, so Yeah. Then you look at them and you're, like, kind of ignoring the fact that you will be writing a couple weeks. The more you're you get used. The first session's always a bit like, All right, how scary. But I'm day 23 just like you drop in. First up, you top to bottom rewrite on dhe

AJ Barlas:   25:43
start throws him. So

Nico Vink:   25:45
you know, I started you. But like I wrote him again the Jews after General Dae dropping right, the whole thing. And it's the best. But you get used to it. Yeah, like most dudes that wrote it Like I Yes, sir. Very like, you know, two days ago, Jackson Room

AJ Barlas:   26:05
rejects O J. X s. Yeah,

Nico Vink:   26:13
17 shredder, And he came out to lose. It's like mad Nikolic, after coming here, come up to me. Like like you heard on Dave McMillen singing like Have fun. January were So you gotta use it. So perception. Yeah, and I feel like in the upper to need to write that stuff is there on a daily basis. You'll just get better at it and stuff When I was getting bigger, pretty normal. Marty and I, you get over down that stuff easy, if you really want. Yeah, I know

AJ Barlas:   26:58
what we saw already. Thio two years ago.

Nico Vink:   27:01
That was E. You just got I don't know, Like as a That jump is probably like that. Um most scary. Yeah. On was just you. Like you're going into that thing Like, this year round me was my hurt in the berm 75 k three on most of us. Are you facets? I think I was about 73. 74 were all around us. So imagine going on 75 K. And, uh, I got five meters take up. Yeah, I don't think many would like a 26 year You like that

AJ Barlas:   27:54
because it did it still hit this year. You

Nico Vink:   27:56
have the other side, but we What do you say we make the Burma continue from longer, So card back into the hill. Griffin made less like like, nine years. What? Even taller? This one was accepted. Your stellar something to slow it down. I Yeah, I tried to make it a bit safer. More Marjorie, since discretion on Rami came on to lose trust, help build and stuff. And I really like he was worried about you being about love back. Because I do like your your bosses. I respect your near one of the best bike riders. Jonathan, I want to see you right now. You like how come and help build Andi? I definitely like you took this feedback consideration. Build a good writer. And the more minds he put together,

AJ Barlas:   28:55
better results. Lost. Where is that loose, I thought. Is it like a product space? The land is three years old.

Nico Vink:   29:06
Old ski hill, like, have any skill? On a little far? Um, that's a quality in your spot. Franco shock. I don't know if you know, for me, little one a little bit. It's near for one trip. And on that ski hell, there no more snow. So the by parks existing Maybe your son year. Okay, so there's a tiny little bite, Parker that I when I got into building germ punches but big dragons, I started talking to the landowner like are you cool it in the building? A big light here. Yeah, sure with a gavel. My big goal for like during the prose is like compiling and piling up like tractors, driving in with dirt, like for a week straight, like rotating at six. Directors. I know you still okay with this. These lemmings, like 78 meters tall. You need more. Just keep going. Go for it. So you got lucky.

AJ Barlas:   30:22
Yeah. Did you know him from elsewhere or

Nico Vink:   30:24
just from the bike? Using guy.

AJ Barlas:   30:28
You wrote it before.

Nico Vink:   30:30
I did, like national transferees there. Right? And I also, like, offered in, like, the build of it in his bike parking trade for me having those jobs there. You worked out.

AJ Barlas:   30:45
Yeah. So you can set it to you guys melding more across dirt. Camping on BMX is with Melanie barking down. Do you think that's like the GNU free ride? Because three ride and flushed all used to be kind of the same thing with the same blood is a pretty good split guy. Now what's our eyes like? Little trick kids and yours just don't big whitson limbs cut off crazy

Nico Vink:   31:21
tricks, I think how you say I think it's not free guardian or the new career. I think it's a party. You like seeing me for your writing. How do you define like fear? Just run by riding your bike on anything you like. So big jumps is a part of, um that I think about all the big mountain, the rampage writing my kind of stuff would even like if you're just lapping bike park feeling that could be considered good. You're not racing. So you're right for yourself. It's whatever you I just open. Yeah, but it's a part of it, I think maybe, Like I don't know if we can say that, Like, you could compare it. Like like surfing and big wave surfing feel like, Yeah, but then I feel like so others are still Yeah, I don't know.

AJ Barlas:   32:37
How do you feel about the current state of life? I guess Pretty ride his powers like big jumps in Big Mountain and lots of stuff.

Nico Vink:   32:45
I think it's cool. Thing is still like progressing going in the right direction. I go, I guess I would love to see, like, some some more like rampage like stuff. Maybe like else would I was sorry, but like, not even like in the form of Ram Pidge. I'm I'm not a big fan. I'm competition aspect of things. A Ratter like like, Do we really run it like the jam? Former need off and then, like you just like crown your writers

AJ Barlas:   33:21
just from the rod? Is he right?

Nico Vink:   33:23
From their riders perspective? And I think that's the most fair way to do it. Like that's That's my person. You know, they come. Maybe I'm a bit of a liver. Can't be bothered being competitive, Just like I feel like the bust like I ride because it's fun. Um, with the way we run our refunds like we're just having fun among his friends, I feel so wouldn't that environment. There's a lot more room to push because you're having a good time. You're not restricted toe one right

AJ Barlas:   34:04
like something full that you

Nico Vink:   34:07
do whatever you want. If you feel like doing like 50 laps during a week, got 50 chances of showing yourself if you feel like two loves also, if you don't feel like writing Oh, you just wanna hang out and drink beers that week because you're not feeling that's cool. So what fasted smart about? We want to progress on. We definitely want a writer bites, but it needs a definite show environment like a fun environment. So I'm more we got.

AJ Barlas:   34:43
Is that more like being explodes a lot of Jan. Four minutes these days,

Nico Vink:   34:47
and I really like that because, like not to criticize Rampage. But if I look at because I'm also I'm judging part of, uh, I'm a little bit, but to me personally, like I see like a windy day. Oh, are you like I get brings pressures that are bringing special two riders like if like they need to perform regardless. If it's when, yeah, because the events leading up, maybe a water day. Yeah, but then again, like if it's super when the they moving forward. But then it happens every year. Someone yes, which is normal but because of their foreman, are restricted. Yeah, I feel like if they would open it up like a surf camp, there's no beefs. No, I have a big window. Um, I just prefer that basically, from the pressure on risk things,

AJ Barlas:   36:02
that's cool. I'm going back to loose that best series. What? Who's behind this? It's you.

Nico Vink:   36:09
There's a bunch of us, you know. It's like bye market. He's actually like Like the reason we all started. I think he was. He he actually the but first fusty like it was really hard for us. And that's it, I think here. I think it was 2000. Yeah. Peter Turchin are forking, um, at the same time, Like the year before we had, like, lines up. Littlefoot. Normie, I'm not that saying here that I also did. Myra, those proctor you here, I stopped producing, didn't write a little sting. And I invited Mark into mine and I I invited a bunch of guys. But like I know, everyone is busy. So, like, only Mark and made it over. So market came, right? My stuff. You want to come to my this event, which was more of an event like that? We run fast. That well said, Are we Sarti? Andrea ll scat Oh, Reynolds A few more guys, but that's kind of the main doors. And then, like we had such a good time likeliest. Felt like we wrote, like, super good progressing, partying all night writing. Just have fun. Yeah, So we're, like all matter, Mimi the do more Eddie's like after we kind of just started brainstorming between all of us for you. Nice year. My I d did this first, even tied it my first ever getting his first. So second year it was, Yeah. The union is here. Loose us. Talk off us. Good. That's kind of Yeah. Like I got my body like that Body artwork like that happens. And all that stuff. It was an idea. What? This cattle come from underground? Yes, that's okay. And

AJ Barlas:   38:37
you guys are all still involved. Normal. Those events necessarily running for, you

Nico Vink:   38:42
know, it's pretty chill. Get back that people don't feel like running. That's also cool. Then whoever scheme to run it runs. It was not Morgan. I'll come to show up to the others, and you're kind of like it's kind of like a gentleman's agreement. Yeah, Nicole, those dudes are welcome. And then the host is responsible for you. So, like, for my even picked the riders that inspired me in France on they're like everyone's friends. Anyways, mostly,

AJ Barlas:   39:20
you might know someone who's like, new or something, you know?

Nico Vink:   39:25
Yeah, and there's no, like form together, are

AJ Barlas:   39:33
you? Don't have to qualify

Nico Vink:   39:34
for this is just like we like That's our friends. Yeah, people be like riding with inspires because a lot of people ask me, how do I get into a fest? And it's tough to say No, but better. We want to keep it elusive because it's ah, splitting a working. Yeah. Um, yeah. If you're not invited, you just

AJ Barlas:   39:59
You probably also need to know that that riders gonna be good to ride the stuff you're planning

Nico Vink:   40:04
to build a nun again. Like there's so many good writer. A lot of good. Yeah, but like, writing's not the only cartoon to get right. Like because we hang out for a week, we go right together. NAFTA nurse together like you. Yeah, that's you need to be like fun.

AJ Barlas:   40:28
Just look at these reunions. It's a reunion every time.

Nico Vink:   40:32
So and then there's you a certain amount of budget we have. Like like usually like original, even like we kind of made a agreement that it's like 15 writers right on dhe sometimes go over it. Like for my nose already upto 24. Really? So it I'm not It's a lotta yeah hotel, right?

AJ Barlas:   41:00
You're putting these people up when they

Nico Vink:   41:02
come in agreement between us lives pretty loose. Those kind of hotel food, Jones. I will fly for a week and write together media crew films at all. That's how I know you're on it.

AJ Barlas:   41:21
Go moving from that. You also mentioned Grand Paige. There you are. I mean, where you I guess we got off the question. What? What are you looking for? Like I looked at the judges panel from I think I saw it from two years ago. And from memory, I'm up here, all Muslim. Where? What? I would call your cousin your stereotypical free rider. Like big lines. No trick kids or anything like that. Um, but it seems like every year the tricks What with?

Nico Vink:   42:02
Well, the way I look at it like an A lot of people might disagree, but like everyone, I'm getting into that, even getting an invite. Mills up, right? Oh, yeah. Most of those guys know how Dr Some might be less fast under some might be. I'm going with the big gun. Others, But mostly it's the like. If you do, if you got all those ingredients going fast, you're going. You are? What's that? Right? Like what is the difference if you like. For example, Andrew. He's World Cup speed. He has loads. He's aggressive. He's not afraid to go. Yeah, it's probably one of the gnarliest. Sometimes

AJ Barlas:   43:02
that one human Aggie had I should start wearing that Ugo that wrote that. Run a bag, that runoff. Andrea's that you What you say will come stay here, going down.

Nico Vink:   43:18
It's up to me and you're going that fast something you started flips and come on, you know, like then like how can you, like, not see that I feel like all those dudes out there so good right now. Tricks of difference. And it's not slopes. I like people lives slope silent movie slips. Look at this little cars and we're here at crackers. Look at you all right? Yeah, like walk around that place. It's manicured. That's manicured. It's perfect. It's not even big anymore. I did that stuff very small. Like if if we would build like fast cars on that help, you would probably have like one or two

AJ Barlas:   44:09
of you saying two jumps

Nico Vink:   44:11
that same distance. So it's like it doesn't matter. I respected it. Look, because does Are they any good writers? But rampages? Yeah, like guys that do tricks, Ram pictures and everything groups alive like because if you if you don't groom your earnings and you're doing a 70 foot drugs, it's just impossible. The whole long term you're gonna pull up like nice. Therefore the whole mountain groomed. But it's it's like them under respect. I got for all those athletes on Bill Cruise at around pages and saying because like, you show, for example, last year's when you show up there's nothing there I would in a week. That place looks like there's a trail. Yeah, huge land like you couldn't even like. Imagine it like machine packing stuff in the same. So it's not so silent night. Think tricks or just making the difference, because everyone's that good breath stand out on, for example, in jails run our leaders are under Just like Brian. Steve, Uh, style. Make it look easy. Trash,

AJ Barlas:   45:39
different shit. What happened on your run that you remember that actually went back and watched the video morning dropping It was

Nico Vink:   45:50
That was bad. Yeah, like how do you say, like all right. Like that ramp, A cellist struggle of it. Like finding my life like I always because there's a gun. I'm pretty like you say. You know, I'm not sure if I'm introvert, but like like when I walked her out there, I'm picking lights. Maybe I wanted to be too perfect. Look for something I can't find. And I a lot of look people take in their spots. You know what? I kind of want to find my own little special thing. Yeah, but by doing that, I also I love expending too much time finding a life which I'm never gonna find where I should be more like, just build something quickly. And then it was a second year going to the venue in the year before I was sharing my life with Andrea. All right, I'm building that line. You're Andrea? What? And then, um I think so. Tired from digging at first practice, I misjudged, like, basic drop over. John blew my hand on the bar Concussed. So I was some That was And the year after I got back like I was more like I'm not here to come. The Partick I'm here. I came back from like like, loose bust in on all that stuff when I was like like Ireland. Since this function, Ms Bai can take whatever. Let's go. So I wrote like the whole bottom part. But the bill we started like was like a vigorous like it would thus, finishing or not. I understand you had to do. Then we have to do in a time for that first drop you and then, like the running to it was fine. And then it was like a angled wall into, like, a straight wall, kind of. And we wanted to roll the tops of roll into a halfway and then Arab from awfully. But we had a heart on the white broke and we couldn't get through Cool. You're allowed to use. So, like, Gaitan from shape our shoes there like hanging, hanging for weeks. Like, Have you got the shizzle?

AJ Barlas:   48:37
Oh, yeah. He had an actual rock chisel.

Nico Vink:   48:39
Yeah. So better options ship in Iraq. And because of that, him being up there trying to roll it in, we couldn't build a landing below because it's company rocks. I, um I did Davy for qualifying like I went up there coming down with a rope that actually dropped because he couldn't walk there and, um, extending on the ruling? No. So I was like Like I used to just write my life. It's fine. Yeah, it's Whatever. Right? Mine. Get down. See? It's good. Well, yeah, OK, I think. But they're not like my God has been digging there for a week is done. All right? I told him, like if I go off here, probably there the chances of me holding on to their slim. But, you know, maybe if I've power it out, it might work. I just like, committed Thio. What? I accepted the fact. Like like I told myself, I never go out of my comfort zone. Yeah, pretty control. Why, I I I don't do to money like crazy. Is this okay? If I like every other thing I've done so far, I just I objection was right. So maybe there's, like, this little percentage above my judgment. I don't know that I never dared going. Yeah, no, I'll just go with Andi. If I crash would like race, moral cops have really big crashes, racing big offs like huge. Like it's this crash is not gonna be any different. Overshooting like a steep shoot in a real cup blue. The Yeah, like I never been that focused on similar results. Kind of just accepting the blow up, but whatever on one, working like during the building death. More funny thing, like thunder came up like looking over from the top money. Like looking good, man. Very good. It's gonna be good. Better through their approved that I kind of looked over time builder joking. I'm like, Wait, So, um yeah, you Is that it? Again, I learned is exactly right. Thought I was almost power it out, but just high sided crush. And that's why I ran, Like, looking back at it, I probably should have, like, rude Nikes, like for qualifying. Then I don't I don't build a nice Yeah, on because I got a pretty cool stuff happening. That thing. Yeah. Andi, I could have been a good run if I rode that top line into, like, a bottom drop of Andrea jump. Good. No, whatever. And

AJ Barlas:   52:03
that was the lost years. Competing.

Nico Vink:   52:05
No, I wanted to get it after about Barbara. Um, I got a little writer happy,

AJ Barlas:   52:12
don't you? Yeah, it was

Nico Vink:   52:14
like like bunker. Okay, I'll do that.

AJ Barlas:   52:19
Yeah. Huh. So you go to us to do it now. Yeah. Is there a lot of arguing in the judge's deuce? There you guys are. No, you write things down secretly. And then

Nico Vink:   52:33
now we got other things on vision. High card explorers, everything. Sometimes we like, do top of certain things because we compare runs. I think that's how you have todo because, like this see what's actually really, really good Because I was very worried about like being in a container and judging from TV screens hurt. But it was actually way better because humans it of overto hold writer field because, like, you're like, if you're judging on the mountain, you're on one side and some stuff seems further away, right? So and you know what they're writing? Because, like, we walked every Ryan like Mark, Little times were solving practice. No tricks. They're going to do so we kind of are. You know, if they nailed it, store something, there's prices, but mostly we know that's coming. And so we know all the stuff. But even still a super nice of you from screen? Yeah, crime.

AJ Barlas:   53:42
Just the same sort of angles and

Nico Vink:   53:44
Sam idols and you got like we could be mine when you have free place, right? So we could rewatch stuff than we could like play two rounds at the same time to compare that guy. That guy and I thought it was super fair.

AJ Barlas:   53:56
Go. So does the first year than even you lost

Nico Vink:   54:01
your I was the first thing. You're also the first year. Think I don't know. First year I was involved, we were judging three before we always had screens, but we didn't need him as much.

AJ Barlas:   54:17
Cool. Is it the same venue this year? Yeah, it is going. Yeah. Huh. How do you think that's in effect? Sort of lines build and stuff like that. Do you think some writers will go back and use the same line and just tweak things

Nico Vink:   54:36
thing? Not that like if if they like writers that were there last year, urges can't prove it. Last year it was like like taking on a new built. It's just so much work. Yeah, like a whole new life commission. Some in a glass here. Like I think he was one of the only guys that did a full, unique like himself, most people partner. But that's also the reason he struggled, like finishing stuff. Yeah, so if you do that black, it's take on it and you might risk nothing. Practice or just think too tired. And so I'm being too tired. I think most people go back. Think it's hard if if it's in, like second year to use a venue, then

AJ Barlas:   55:24
there's new kids coming, you know? Recently, resource. Like those

Nico Vink:   55:28
guys a r G's coming back. Yeah, B, that's coming back. So I think it's hard for them because every like, everything's clean already, and

AJ Barlas:   55:42
they're going to talk to people.

Nico Vink:   55:44
They're gonna have to talk over five new stuff. But there's like, not that right? A lot of it is taken.

AJ Barlas:   55:53
Something else we're involved in is to tell a bicarb there's always you stick at it, your lineup coming out. How did that come again? I'm, like,

Nico Vink:   56:03
again Ben Walker from Scott. Like Scott has a partnership that should tell on, um, like, um, yeah, we kind of go in there and shooting there Sometimes, like I'm an ambassador toward a resort. You're kind of like like I was also building by parks on the side of Look what I writing professionally. And, um, it's kind of like build a line here would be sick. Like, well, the new line in the bike park that something cool to shoot. That's that's sick for people coming right here to have a new stuff. So, yeah, that's kind of home. That'll happen. Like it, actually. What? I look, um, at the end of my racing, or so I was racing. I wanted to go more to free riding on that year. I wasn't Rosa still, but right. Ex cop quality. I didn't know Extra Tall mountain. Okay? Because I went riding there sometime somewhere, and I asked for a goodun 30. Even So, I kind of like that was again How you feel? Like time in my career. I've had enough of the most one. Yeah, I kind of fill up my car. Just make it there. Hoping about some prize money to make it. Yes. So it was like a selection. Andi was there on a mission. Like I need to make it. No. So I went to shit, um, that the I think I got 50 or six or something. So just missed out on price money. But then, for some reason, I like best even spirit, which was like a grant or 1500 bucks. But then the organizer of the time we got a letter. A lot of the features there didn't get hurt. Mike, there was a new big drop. No one hit. It was a couple things. So I just told him, like if you're keen Pete to come back because I wanted to get it to filming and shoot, do you want to do that? Yeah, sure. That's like my first contact with you. And then also Baton was already involved there, and I was already and sculpt clothing. And I started passing right Scott's body to next year. So that's kind of a little shooting a video. And when the next year I wrote for Scott and Resort Group

AJ Barlas:   58:46
and that big one was that a similar thing? Way? Austin to build that at last, You

Nico Vink:   58:52
big line was actually for the event. Okay, was actually built by except your old in this group here in time. And it was actually a wild card for, because that's really not my role card. Wild for my first. Okay, on, uh so it was like wanted only for you. Right? Hear much was super sick. But later, like generally left, shuttle overcome or else on. Then I kind of took over a venue and started building, modifying the court, building your future. So we didn't find a video in front for two years, and I was kind of involved in building that. But at the same time, I was starting with all the best stuff. That's how I started building there, like at a time like we were looking for new stuff to shoot in the park and conversation just started Nico's building. Stuff himself. Get up in a nice bottom. Built good, yeah, on the okayed it. But to build my liners got a signature line in the park. Now,

AJ Barlas:   1:0:12
any type into the public

Nico Vink:   1:0:17
like it's like split up in in three sections. We got the upper one, which is pretty big for a bike part. The middle section's more like a connection. You were very limited in what we could do. The Turing rock, like everything the lower ones, like more of a beginner, come true. Very texel, Small now look fine.

AJ Barlas:   1:0:44
Go. Is it of a different chanceless? Go. Those doesn't care. So you could pop off just d'oh below a section. I

Nico Vink:   1:0:53
didn't write the lower mountain or, like similar toe. Yeah, last trip.

AJ Barlas:   1:1:02
Thank you. Yeah, I love it. So do you spend much time in stolen? Just whenever you get

Nico Vink:   1:1:12
let's say maybe a month. A year in summer, from building to writing, toe shooting, like probably a month, month and 1/2. Yeah, I'm not. And then my other times, Like, taken with Mike? Yeah. Under budget. Faster. Yeah. I'm shooting for my partners. Okay.

AJ Barlas:   1:1:33
Yeah. Speaking of partners, giving was got he said, uh, 60 years now. Thanks. Hello. Needed indolence for four. Yeah, because this is

Nico Vink:   1:1:49
my four year charging around fish this year, I think I started arriving there. Suspension The year a question.

AJ Barlas:   1:2:04
You said it was awesome. Yeah, but so how involved are you with the development of the proxy? Roddy? You testing me? Dio more

Nico Vink:   1:2:17
Do some testing. But like, for example, like this bike. Now look, it's almost done. Gorges Dam. This is almost a little. So just when I didn't need to check, It's like right now and still get a little bit of feedback. But there's very Starr lets up successes, fire, suspension Just run it. And if I have issues will tell him. But again, ever. Sure, then, um, reversed on phones gave me, like, my signature product. So they're just like and put in. Like, I felt a bit happier than this. Most look I don't care about like,

AJ Barlas:   1:3:01
you want a strong

Nico Vink:   1:3:02
just not strong. I have a bit more material bending are cracking bars on, direct your stuff. We write down. Totally. I just I want my parts to be tailored up to Well, I do My sense of writing stuff could Yeah, uh, models Hope, Um, how long This partner years I'm writing for him. I think

AJ Barlas:   1:3:33
I'm pretty pretty involved with a bunch of this sort of fast cars. You're super

Nico Vink:   1:3:41
nice. And how do you say, Like, hope is just super today? Yeah, They're good people, and that's all, Like, machine. And you can I love their product. Like it? That's not it's not coming from. Yeah, there. They, uh, just life machine. Like everything. You could thing the different spare parts if you break a leathery don't fool. No burden, Keogh. Like he's blinding level buying part. And they were always It's kind of like the profile of working.

AJ Barlas:   1:4:26
Yeah, sure. Well, helping old lab having all that is across the

Nico Vink:   1:4:32
way. So I always live in big to me. I, like very fortunate.

AJ Barlas:   1:4:41
Well, zero set up changed much for Sy example. Writing in Whistler. Thio Riding you is best off.

Nico Vink:   1:4:49
No, literally. I like something you do that. Like Like for Lucy. I run a super firm. So, like, almost done right. Like it's like I just wanted be verified, overcome, cop short, like the more support Like if you're going deep good, a 90 foot jump, 102 100 time on your hands like it's harsh. Yeah, like I had landings on those jumps. Were like, I don't know if it's build up a new bike like you, right? And then one time I over jumped the second, like all my fault.

AJ Barlas:   1:5:37
No way. Just from yeah, Just took everything.

Nico Vink:   1:5:42
So, like, the firmer it it's like, slow rebound for sure, because a few case or in those take up, you rather have it sitting in now. Yeah, kicking forward because I thought that's the biggest nightmare. You get bucked. You don't distance, you travel. You're Yeah, you're like any jump. But those jump your consequences. Liar, right? Yeah,

AJ Barlas:   1:6:11
sure. So Rosen asked you talking about stiffening it up. But Phyllis first softball softening it up for you. What do you find? We find more than its use. Different it up for the big stuff you're doing. Or do you have to soften? But do you run it more often? Stiff?

Nico Vink:   1:6:28
No. Like I run it more often because I like those riding big jumps every day. Yeah. No,

AJ Barlas:   1:6:40
you

Nico Vink:   1:6:41
don't. I love it. But I'm also getting to play that, huh? You say to realize what we're doing and to keep that progressing. That maneuver that goes into your ass a little. Yeah. So now I'm kind of like looking to do more different suffers. Well, maybe some more big mountain riding free riding, then I want to build something like more creative stuff.

AJ Barlas:   1:7:14
The stuff that will get you on your black mor because you haven't put so much time in tow. Yeah, those big things

Nico Vink:   1:7:20
because, like, for example, 3 to 4 week boat, you and then you get to ride it for a week to maybe Yeah, but then the thing is like with all my daughter projects on obligations and stuff I got to do. Like like there's not that much spare time issued for shipped out like shooting for a stop shooting for the You're So there's another events in between. It's not like I can Just chilling moment, right? A big jumps. Uh, Then again, I got about different. Okay? Because I said before, with the whole free diving thing, I think that's everything. Andi, I got multiple visions of what I want right there. I wanna stick to one thing. Yeah, And I always wantedto built more creative stuff. I feel like, ideally love to build creative big stuff, but then built, like double or triple time and not a moment Don't have the resource is committed at so in my mind of settling toe something super creative on a smaller scale and have fun. Don't scare myself too much. So it more big mom something pushing

AJ Barlas:   1:8:51
Go Do you like? Well, we maybe see you riding child locks more. What is it? Still down?

Nico Vink:   1:8:58
Mostly down. Oh, my god. Like trail bikes. What

AJ Barlas:   1:9:02
do you want? Yeah,

Nico Vink:   1:9:04
kind of the stuff around some man a genius. So I write them sometimes. Like like on big builds. I like going for a They already like to get some writing. Your relax and stay put. Yeah. So

AJ Barlas:   1:9:21
do you still learn a job? Yeah, I still do.

Nico Vink:   1:9:28
I love going to pump Tracker are hitting the trail. I don't do it enough. Bye.

AJ Barlas:   1:9:35
You still enjoy it And it's all what's coming up in the future. Don't be projects, I think he said you were doing a shoot somewhere else in Bay City. Off the print books

Nico Vink:   1:9:46
are shooting new Dude, you're our movie. Hey, I don't know how much chicken talk about.

AJ Barlas:   1:9:55
It's good. It's over. Yeah,

Nico Vink:   1:9:58
So I'm doing that. A couple of different projects that should tell what else? There's one like I would like to squeeze and like what I was saying, like spelling something. Super Cream. Bye. I would like to do it this year. So see if I'll find time cause I need to finish up another movie like a video segment rampage, charging my shoot more. Go to Alaska. So there's a lot of stuff. Sometimes I just go with the flow. You my time I got injured going writing

AJ Barlas:   1:10:34
to Theo, I think. Did you tell him So what do you do in the winter? But do you go south? Gets no more?

Nico Vink:   1:10:43
Well, yeah, kind of. I live right over here. Okay, But then it got nothing like

AJ Barlas:   1:10:49
you're right. Stable.

Nico Vink:   1:10:51
Borrowed so much The temporary home. Even in winter time. Usually Leader goes so. But now with dark like that's like the whole month of Get Monkey Cannery. February were there. Well, then when I got back from there, usually I got, like, water projects. Let it be like shooting in the sewer are shooting in March. I don't know. Like, for example, for hope. Different end result stuff.

AJ Barlas:   1:11:22
Yeah, keeps you busy. So I usually like to end my podcast with a couple of what I call quick shots s o just like basic things. That's kind of like the first thing that comes to your mind. They're a couple. Here is a couple of extra ones because I've got to ask you before, they did really well in here. So the 1st 1 is Who do you really like to watch? Right?

Nico Vink:   1:11:47
There's a couple, but I'll say it quick. Thanks, Sammy thing. Andrea, uh, Priceline Fair Club with anything. Definitely someone for gay better summon.

AJ Barlas:   1:12:05
Yeah, there is a nice, wholesome

Nico Vink:   1:12:08
Those come to my first, Like the whole last crusade.

AJ Barlas:   1:12:17
What's that? I mean, this is obviously not a quick show up. We're gonna step out for a second. What's the deal with the best guys? Nor only being albergo so being. But all of them have six tiles, but none of them looked like Hawk is. They look like, really skilled. Brought it?

Nico Vink:   1:12:36
No, Like, I never looked at it that way. I just think it's like dudes that have been writing for a long time. It's that type of writer they don't. Maybe you're focused writing in the You're right. They hit that kind of stuff. You need to be really good. I don't know how come like that crew,

AJ Barlas:   1:13:00
they will have $6.

Nico Vink:   1:13:01
Got the area six generally. Why do

AJ Barlas:   1:13:08
you drawn to each other? Come.

Nico Vink:   1:13:09
I think so. I think it's just like my mom. No. Yeah. Like like viewing this part Similar. Look at what they want. The sport of the Yeah, Just somehow, up together on the cool thing Is that the whole when you like riding a weakling? Really? Bond, where just works

AJ Barlas:   1:13:39
that's all. So back into the quick shots, Who has the best oil? Well, glitter a lot of

Nico Vink:   1:13:59
I would say under Yeah, because he's in. Not, like, train that right? Who used to actually wild those big sentence trick? Yeah, no problem. Right then again, some of super sick, Uh, if I want the big one So we're all

AJ Barlas:   1:14:28
say the best Place your eye

Nico Vink:   1:14:33
a few, I think. My favorite farming.

AJ Barlas:   1:14:42
Oh, yeah. Place in Sick Bay near there. Andrea runs. We're staying in any way business of saying

Nico Vink:   1:14:52
like because private? Yeah, area. I'm sorry if I've been a little bit. No, I don't know if you've ever seen me. I hit like the double over trees. Yes, that is. They're just like the most core.

AJ Barlas:   1:15:17
Yes, does involved with the joint as well as the fact that's good writing.

Nico Vink:   1:15:24
Really, Like most three ridden a bike. Super sick trails were always with a small crew, mostly the fast. So that adds like VIPs, um, and the guide us. But it all don't move like that.

AJ Barlas:   1:15:45
And he rides it all to get what's the best dealing on the black. My clone trials that will get you

Nico Vink:   1:15:56
anything girls like I got him. I'm not like I've never been guy go one hit kind of guy. I just like stuff that flows, Links up. Yeah, cruising just all feels like easy and not true. That's what,

AJ Barlas:   1:16:23
Who someone we should look out for, Roger said Jackson. Their leaders.

Nico Vink:   1:16:28
Jackson rules I am there cause I feel like come on the scene three years

AJ Barlas:   1:16:41
And he said He's like 17. That's crazy.

Nico Vink:   1:16:46
Focus and dedication to riding. She's dating Amy. He's like, I just go lock up some stuff. You're such a Trixie. We took a garbled stuff. Super slippery stuff. You semi slick. He was writing just out of kits. Thanks the law. There's not. There's a lot of guys like like, came for Oh, yeah, I kid you not gold. Okay, Okay. Gil, I think they're stolen.

AJ Barlas:   1:17:27
You're sitting across from me now. A lot of fighters of you

Nico Vink:   1:17:33
BMX riding way back my road more still roam our bm

AJ Barlas:   1:17:46
Oh, now, Yeah,

Nico Vink:   1:17:49
but I just like first time the guy was cruising my little escape. Parker's a bit tired, just like, but I like the transfer right fast. Go high. I was just doing my Who's the local up transfer into the effort? I should not be writing Very sweet. Couldn't stop it, Duck. I did it. Aaron hung up at open face. No, but I went over the bar, hit the bottom, and then lost. Broke my nose. Cop coughs. I'm lost 50 mighty notion Fix it all up, But, um, after that, like it can BMX rider. Same thing. Writing part bigger Ki bok. Like, missed my bars case knock out my teeth again. I crack it, I break breaking in half But then that's that They fix it again, But don't like slashing Pete so much I nation on by my rock up Season seven All right, seven email. I just there get inflammation. Bad for your condition Recovery. Decided to pull it out. I'm done. No food for a left. Ended up for seven years.

AJ Barlas:   1:19:32
So you going to do? I didn't do it for it. Took me seven years to get

Nico Vink:   1:19:40
it. It's It's a lot of money. Yeah, all my money, right. You're going back into biking, traveling like even like Like, I would have been like to eat five grand to fix it. You know, if I fix it. Crash again.

AJ Barlas:   1:20:09
Cool. Mess that story. Thanks. So you think, uh, thank you. And with that, we come to the end of the second innocently podcast. If you made it this far. Thanks for listening. We hope you enjoyed it and learn more about you guys. Think he showed us inscribed wherever you listen and let us know what you think. You can also check in snb dot com for regular NTV content. We'll be back in a couple of weeks with another episode for your listening pleasure. Until then, get out and ride your bike.